‘It’ Director Says the Turtle Will Have a Role in ‘Chapter Two’

Stephen King’s novel It features an ancient turtle god named Maturin, and while this is not something that was adapted in the 1990 TV miniseries or the 2017 film, director Andy Muschietti says it will come into play in the forthcoming Chapter Two.

In a new interview with SyFy.com, Muschietti said that the turtle god from the book will help the kids defeat Pennywise in the upcoming sequel.

“In the book, they somehow address the turtle and say ‘the turtle couldn’t help us,'” he said. “But I think in the second part, the turtle will try to help them. In the second movie, the turtle left a few clues to their childhood that they don’t remember. They have to retrieve those memories from the summer of 1989, and that’s how we jump back to 1989. The keys to defeating to Pennywise are left in the past, and as adults, they don’t remember.”

The kids in It. | New Line Cinema

At least, this is Andy Muschietti’s current plan, as he’s still writing It: Chapter Two. What he was not clear on was whether we will actually see Maturin on screen in Chapter Two, either because this has not yet been decided or because Muschietti didn’t want to give anything away. He did say, however, that he wants the sequel to take things further than the original.

“We might go farther and make it a bit more interesting and unexpected,” he said.

In the book, there’s a scene where Bill enters the Macroverse, the dimension where It came from, and meets Maturin, an ancient turtle who created the universe. Maturin explains to Bill how to defeat Pennywise, and that leads into the end of the childhood storyline. Obviously, this didn’t happen in It, but there are still lots of hints about the turtle like with a LEGO set and with a small moment when the kids are swimming together and they come across a turtle.

The 1990 It miniseries didn’t get into all of the backstory about Pennywise coming from another dimension and about there being a godlike turtle that helps the kids. But Andy Muschietti has already said that he wants to explore some of this in the sequel, potentially taking us into the Macroverse; he explained in an interview that the main reason there was no Macroverse in the first movie was because they didn’t have the money.

“I also wanted to leave something for the second half, so I didn’t want to get in trouble with that – going into the macroverse or that transdimensional stuff – and keep it grounded, from the point of view of the kids,” Muschietti recently said. “…There’s another movie to expand into that.”

Pennywise in It. | New Line Cinema

If Muschietti wanted to actually show the turtle on screen, one way he could do it would be during a drug trip. The director recently revealed that in the sequel, Mike Hanlon will be a junkie, and he takes drugs to alter his mind and find out how to defeat It.

“He’s not just the collector of knowledge of what Pennywise has been doing in Derry,” Muschietti said of Mike. “He will bear the role of trying to figure out how to defeat him. The only way he can do that is to take drugs and alter his mind.”

Though an ancient turtle god might be something that works better on the page than on screen, audiences would probably buy it more if it came as part of a drug sequence.

It: Chapter Two is expected to go into production next year and open in 2019.

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