‘The Office’: The 2 Characters Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey Relate to Now Might Surprise You

It’s been a hot minute since The Office aired its final episode on NBC. The workplace comedy delighted fans for eight years and nine seasons. But now, viewers are re-watching the series on streaming platforms, such as Netflix, and gaining some new perspective. Then during a recent recap of The Office Season 3 Episode 8 — titled “The Merger” — Jenna Fischer (Pam Beesly) and Angela Kinsey (Angela Martin) realized they can now relate to two characters who are a far cry from their on-screen alter egos.

Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey recap ‘The Merger’ on the ‘Office Ladies’ podcast

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In the July 21 episode of the Office Ladies podcast, Fischer and Kinsey discussed “The Merger.” The two former co-stars opened up about what it was like to unite two major Dunder Mifflin branches. And as expected, the cast had a much better experience than their characters in the episode. Kinsey said:

We were really excited to shoot “The Merger.” It was like we were meeting new people. The Stamford and Scranton branches shot on different days and different sound stages. So we almost never were together except for maybe just a few times. And we all really missed John’s presence on-set. So when the branches met, it was the first time we were all acting together as a group. And it was a blast. Ed Helmes made me laugh so hard, I pulled a Phyllis and snorted. 

Actress Angela Kinsey and Jenna Fischer discuss "The Office Ladies" with BuzzFeed's "AM To DM" on October 17, 2019 in New York City.
‘The Office’ stars Angela Kinsey and Jenna Fischer | Roy Rochlin/Getty Images

Meanwhile, writer Brent Forrester hopped on the podcast and explained why “The Merger” was such a classic Office episode. 

“It’s got that big, A-story performance piece for Steve Carell, where Michael Scott has twice the audience, twice the family to perform for,” Forrester said. “We knew Steve was just going to kill it in these conference room scenes.” 

He continued, “We also knew we had this clash of two comedy characters who had never been in any scenes together before. That was Andy Bernard and Dwight Schrute … But what really distinguished this episode was the Jim and Pam story. Once again, we relied on the emotion of the episode on Jim and Pam.”

Why Jenna Fischer relates to Ryan Howard from ‘The Office’

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Forrester’s remarks may point out “The Merger” has all the makings of the perfect episode, but The Office fans know it’s the subtle, yet hilariously relatable, moments that truly tie the show together. Then during the Office Ladies podcast, Fischer and Kinsey touched on moments that stuck out to them on a personal level.

One of Fischer’s favorite scenes from “The Merger” was Ryan Howard (B.J. Novak) and Jim Halpert’s (John Krasinski) “desk dance.” At the start of the episode, Jim returns to Scranton, but Ryan took over his desk. Then when Jim tries to reclaim his desk, things get a little awkward.

“I love it so much. They’re both doing that polite thing, like, ‘I’m sorry. Are you… was this you? You’re sitting here now?’ And then Ryan ends up getting the desk,” Fischer said.

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The actor then explained why she feels a connection to Ryan now.

“As an older person, I’m looking back at The Office and I’m super loving the character of Ryan,” Fischer said. “I don’t know what it is. I think maybe when you get older, you give zero sh*ts more often and Ryan gives zero sh*ts.”

She later added, “I just love his talking head. He’s like, ‘Yeah, Jim’s a nice guy. That’s why I got the desk.’ And I’m like, that’s so funny.”

Kinsey also noted Fischer finds Ryan relatable because she’s “finally aged to his place of zero effs.” 

Why Angela Kinsey identifies with Toby Flenderson on ‘The Office’ 

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Still speaking on the Office Ladies podcast, Kinsey revealed the character she related to in “The Merger.” And interestingly enough, it involved another interaction with Jim. But the character in question was Toby Flenderson (Paul Lieberstein).

“If you’re relating to Ryan, Jenna, I think I’m relating to Toby,” Kinsey said. “Jim comes over and Toby is excited to see him. And I think Toby just wanted to be cool. He tries to do a fistbump and Jim is like, ‘Oh, is this what you’re doing now?’ And Toby’s just like, ‘Just forget it. I’m sorry. I don’t know why I did that.’”

The actor continued, “He has such self-loathing in this moment. My heart just breaks for him. But I feel like that’s what I do whenever I try to be like, ‘I’m gonna be cool.’ It’s like, ‘Ah, forget it. That was lame.’”

Meanwhile, Kinsey admitted she had a “bit of beef” with Jim during his interaction with Toby. 

“He knows that Toby is just trying to be cool, he knows that Toby just wants him to like him,” Kinsey said. “He should’ve just fist-bumped him back instead of commenting … and sort of giving him shade! So, Jim, I have an issue with you right there.”

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