The Surprising Way ‘Venom’ Could Actually Connect to the Marvel Cinematic Universe

If you went to see Avengers: Infinity War in theaters, you probably saw the trailer for Venom and may have wondered what it has to do with the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Well, the answer is a bit complicated. This is not explicitly an MCU movie. However, there have been some rumors that it might sort of turn out to be one.

Here’s a look at what Venom has to do with the MCU, and the surprising rumor going around suggesting it might connect (page 6).

1. Sony is releasing Venom in October 2018

Tom Hardy in Venom

Hardy’s character is Eddie Brock. | Marvel Entertainment

Venom hits theaters on Oct. 5, 2018. It stars Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock, an investigative journalist whose body is merged with an alien symbiote.

Even though this is based on a Marvel comic book character, neither Disney nor Marvel Studios has anything to do with this film’s release. Instead, Sony Pictures Releasing is distributing it, although the trailer notes that it is “in association with Marvel.”

Next: What this story has to do with the Spider-Man mythology. 

2. In the comics, Venom is connected to Peter Parker

Venom in Marvel Comics

The character has a very important connection to Spider-Man. | Marvel Comics

It’s not just that Venom is a Marvel comics character; it’s that in the comics, the character’s origin has to do with Spider-Man.

In the source material, Spider-Man got a new black suit during the events of Secrets Wars back in 1984. Readers later found out that this was actually an alien symbiote that would take over Peter’s body. Peter rejected the suit and it escaped, becoming its own entity. Afterward, the alien’s new host was Eddie Brock.

So Spider-Man isn’t always Venom’s host in the comics. But the symbiote only goes to Eddie after having bonded with Spider-Man; that’s the whole reason it basically looks like a black version of the Spider-Man suit. Therefore, the very existence of Venom suggests that there’s a Spider-Man out there.

Next: How the film rights surrounding Spider-Man currently work.

3. Sony still has the rights to Spider-Man characters

Spider-Man crouching from a vantage point, looking down

There’s a confusing relationship between Spider-Man and Marvel in the film world. | Marvel

For a while, Spider-Man could not enter the Marvel Cinematic Universe because Sony owned the exclusive rights to the character. But in 2015, Sony and Marvel Studios reached a deal in which Peter Parker would debut in the MCU in Captain America: Civil War.

You may have just assumed that this deal involved Sony selling the rights, but that’s not the case. Actually, Sony still owns Spider-Man; the studio has just agreed to let Marvel oversee the creative direction of the character and have him be a part of team-up movies like Avengers: Infinity War.

But despite the fact that Spider-Man: Homecoming is a part of the MCU, Disney didn’t actually distribute it; Sony did.

Next: Several Spider-Man movies are currently in development.

4. Sony is working on a whole series of their own Spider-Man films

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

There’s more Spider-Man to come. | Sony Pictures Entertainment via YouTube

You also might have assumed that when Sony allowed Peter Parker to enter the MCU, the studio was giving up on the idea of making Spider-Man films. But that’s not the case either. Instead, Sony shortly announced plans to make its own series of movies based on the Spider-Man mythology.

The first in that series is Venom, but Sony is also coming out with an animated movie about Miles Morales in late 2018 called Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. In addition, the studio is working on a movie about Black Cat and Silver Sable called Silver & Black.

Next: A producer makes this comment suggesting Venom could actually connect with the MCU.

5. Amy Pascal once suggested Venom could be part of the MCU

Venom trailer

Could he eventually meet the Avengers? | Sony Pictures Entertainment via YouTube

When Sony announced these new movies, it sounded like the idea was that they would be completely separate from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. But then during the promotion of Spider-Man: Homecoming, producer Amy Pascal kept suggesting that these films actually could be a part of the same world as Tom Holland’s Spider-Man.

“Well those movies will all take place in the world that we are now creating for Peter Parker,” Pascal said, referring to Venom and Silver & Black. “They’ll be adjuncts to it, it may be different locations but it will still all be in the same world, and they will be connected to each other as well.”

Pascal later backtracked and said that Venom will actually take place in a separate universe. But one rumor suggests she may have been right the first time.

Next: This rumor suggests the way in which the movies will connect.

6. There’s a rumor that Tom Holland will show up in Venom

Tom Holland wearing his Spider-Man suit without the mask

He would show up as the high school student, not his superhero alter-ego. | Sony

When asked in that interview if there’s a chance that Tom Holland will appear as Spider-Man in Venom, Pascal said, “there’s always a chance.”

Months later, in January 2018, there was a rumor that this might actually happen. Collider reported that Holland was on set filming for two days on Venom.

According to Collider, Holland would be appearing in the movie as Peter Parker, not Spider-Man. Screen Rant later reported that there’s a scene in the movie involving a class field trip, so they speculated that this could be Peter’s cameo; that would also explain why he’s in San Francisco, where Venom takes place.

Next: What the president of Marvel Studios has to say.

7. Marvel Studios’ Kevin Feige says Venom is separate, though

Tom Hardy in Venom

Right now, there are no plans for bringing Brock into the MCU. | Sony

Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige seems to disagree with Pascal about the Sony movies being connected to the MCU. In an interview during the same press tour in which Pascal said Venom is related to the MCU, Feige explicitly said that Venom is not related to the MCU.

Video of Feige seeming to react in horror as Pascal said Venom is set in the MCU ended up going viral. However, Feige didn’t rule out the possibility of a crossover, saying, “Never say never.”

Months later, when one of Venom‘s producers was asked if Spider-Man appears in the movie, he wouldn’t answer; one would think that if Sony wanted to dispel the myth that this film is related to the MCU, the producer could give a very definitive no.

Next: This is how Holland could appear in the movie and it could still not be connected to the MCU.

8. Could Holland be playing a totally different Spider-Man?

Tom Holland in Avengers: Infinity War

He definitely wouldn’t be able to wear his Stark-made suit. | Marvel

So how do we explain the fact that Venom is evidently not connected to the MCU, yet Holland is reportedly making a cameo in it? Well, it’s worth noting that Sony’s next Spider-Man film after Venom is Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. This introduces the idea that there are multiple different universes that each have their own Spider-Man.

So one crazy possibility is that even though Holland is going to show up in Venom, he actually won’t be playing the same Spider-Man from the MCU; instead, he’ll be playing a different Spider-Man from the universe where Venom takes place, one who just happens to look like the one from the MCU.

This would allow for Sony to both capitalize on Holland’s popularity while also allowing for their movies to be separate. It would also set the stage for possible crossovers down the road, assuming Venom turns out to be any good.

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