‘The View:’ Meghan McCain and Abby Huntsman Talk About Their ‘Salt and Pepper’ Friendship
Meghan McCain and Abby Huntsman are the two resident conservatives on ABC’s The View. While McCain is known for being strongly vocal on her opinions regardless of how they are received, Huntsman tends to be the more laid back of the two Republicans.
Forming a friendship while working at Fox News, McCain and Huntsman have strengthened their bond during their time at the table on the daytime talk show despite their differing personality types.
It started over drinks
The two co-hosts have plenty in common. Both lean to the right, work in broadcast journalism, and are daughters of political figureheads (Huntsman’s father is former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr., and McCain’s father is the late Arizona Senator John McCain). The ladies confess to endless text threads, frequent FaceTiming, and providing advice to each other on everything from wardrobe choices to health concerns.
Huntsman developed a spicy analogy for her friendship with McCain. “I always say, ‘Everyone needs salt and pepper and you need them both together,'” Huntsman told People. “You don’t just want the pepper and you don’t just want the salt.”
Their friendship started when they were both living in New York City and reporting at Fox News. Huntsman’s mom suggested that she contact McCain. “She was like, ‘You and Meghan have so much in common, you guys have got to just connect,’” Huntsman recalled.
She texted McCain to meet for drinks, and the sisterhood began. “We said the day we got margaritas that we were never going to go low and be that and not support each other,” McCain shared.
“Since margaritas to now, she’s had three children, my dad died, I had a miscarriage, we work on The f—— View,” McCain said, noting that while she and Huntsman can come off as opposites, they complement each other. “It’s good for me to give a little bit of me to her and her to give a little bit of me,” McCain said.
Huntsman sees their contrast as an opportunity for personal growth. “I don’t want to be friends with myself,” Huntsman said. “I don’t want to be friends with someone that’s exactly like me, because you don’t learn as much… You make me stronger,” she told McCain.
Through thick and thin
The two panelists are not just fair-weather friends. McCain and Huntsman have stuck together through many of life’s most difficult times, such as McCain’s father’s death in August 2018 and her miscarriage that followed, and Huntsman’s pregnancy with twins while having an 18-month-old daughter at home.
While McCain was Huntsman’s first call when she found out she was having twins, Huntsman was one of the first to hear from McCain on her miscarriage. “We were texting each other and I’m like, ‘I’m here for you,’ she’s like, ‘I’m here for you,’” Huntsman revealed. “And I’m like, Here we are, two women going through very scary things, very emotional things, and we can still — she was there for me, supportive and loving, no matter what she went through. And I think that told me so much about her as a person.”
McCain shared the healing effect Huntsman’s pregnancy had on her following her father’s death. “I know there are women, when they experience miscarriages, can’t be around pregnancy, which I totally get,” McCain shared, saying Huntsman “got pregnant right after my dad died. … I thought it was so beautiful a reminder of the cycle of life.”
While spending time with Huntsman and her newborn twins shortly after their birth, McCain formed a special bond with Huntsman’s son William. “I was so sad throughout the whole thing and it just felt like so much darkness and sadness and then I remember going over to her apartment right after they [the twins] were born and I have a picture of him laying on me,” McCain said. “She was saying there’s actually something medical about babies laying on you — nurturing and soothing.”
With their knowledge and backgrounds in politics, the two have considered starting their own podcast. “I wanted to call it Sick of This S— with Abby and Meghan,” McCain quipped. “We have a lot of friends that are Democrat, Libertarian, whatever anyone wants to be. It’s not contentious,” Huntsman said.
Now with the political climate at full tumult, the two conservatives find themselves out of sync with the Republican party, yet are thankful they have each other to lean on. “It makes me feel alone,” McCain said, adding, “But then I don’t feel as alone, because I know Abby feels the same way.”