‘This Is Us’: Justin Hartley Says Randall and Kevin’s Feud Starts In the Next Episode

This Is Us fans have been worried about Randall (Sterling K. Brown) and Kevin (Justin Hartley) after the midseason finale aired on Tuesday, Nov. 19. In a flash-forward sequence set nine months from Thanksgiving, Kevin revealed he is no longer speaking with Randall. Of course, fans have been wondering what causes the rift between the Pearson brothers. Now, Hartley has revealed a few details in regards to Randall and Kevin’s feud, including when and where it all starts in This Is Us Season 4.

[Spoiler alert: This Is Us Season 4 Episode 12.]

Randall, Kevin, and Kate are headed to the cabin in ‘This Is Us’ Season 4 Episode 13

In the Randall-centric episode, the city councilman struggles with his anxiety after an intruder breaks into his home and he continues to deal with Rebecca’s (Mandy Moore) mild cognitive impairment diagnosis. 

Meanwhile, in Kevin’s episode, the actor ends his final chapter with Sophie (Alexandra Breckenridge) following her mother’s funeral. He also sleeps with Kate’s best friend, Madison (Caitlin Thompson). 

At the end of their respective episodes, Randall calls Kevin while having a breakdown. The Pearson brothers lean on one another for support. Then in This Is Us Season 4 Episode 13, Kevin suggests taking a trip to the family’s cabin in Pittsburgh. Randall agrees, noting nature will do him some good. He also proposes to invite Kate to the outing.

Then in a flashback to Rebecca’s birthday dinner, teenage Kevin (Logan Shroyer) returns home and his mom is pacing in panic. When Kevin asks what’s wrong, Rebecca says she is worried about teen Kate (Hannah Zeile).

“We got in a big fight and she rode off with Marc [Austin Abrams] to the cabin,” Rebecca says. “She just called me crying. I think she’s in trouble, Kev. We have to go get her.” 

Kevin also calls college-aged Randall (Niles Fitch) — who is about to go to grief group. Kevin says they are about to pick him up to search for Kate. And back in the present day, Kevin calls Kate, who tells her brother she is “about two second away from my marriage completely imploding.”

Finally, Kevin confirms the trip to the Pearson family cabin with Kate and Randall and notes that they’re all “kind of in a bad way.” 

“The sad three?” Randall asks.

“The sad three,” Kate echoes.

Sterling K. Brown teases the Big Three’s trip to the cabin will parallel the past

Following Randall’s This Is Us trilogy episode, Brown revealed a few details about the Pearson siblings’ trip to the cabin. And it seems the getaway will directly parallel teen Kate’s storyline.

“The next two episodes will obviously focus on Kevin and then Kate,” Brown told TVLine on Jan. 21. “I can tell you that ultimately they will wind up taking a trip together to the cabin… They’ll be in the cabin, and the flashback storyline will echo a trip to the cabin, as well.”

Then when speaking with The Hollywood Reporter, Brown shared a few details about Kate, Kevin, and Randall’s reunion, hinting it will be cathartic. 

“We’ll see Kev and Kate in the subsequent two episodes,” Brown said. “And then there’s a lovely [scene that’s] I think the first time this season that we get a chance to see the three of them together talking through what’s going on in their lives, and how they can be of service to one another I think that’s the beautiful thing about having siblings.”

He continued: “Having four siblings myself, it’s really nice to be able to connect, to share, to sort of download into each other’s lives and see the way that these three people help each other live their best lives. So that you see that.”

Justin Hartley reveals the rift between Kevin and Randall starts at the cabin

Sterling K. Brown as Randall, Justin Hartley as Kevin This Is Us - Season 2
Sterling K. Brown as Randall, Justin Hartley as Kevin in ‘This Is Us’ | Ron Batzdorff/NBCU Photo Bank/NBCUniversal via Getty Images via Getty Images

In an interview with TVLine after the Kevin-centric episode of This Is Us, Hartley touched on Kate’s episode on Feb. 11. 

“We finish out the trilogy with Kate. There’s definitely some back story there,” Hartley said. “You start to see her relationship with her boyfriend and what all that means and how that influenced and affected who she is now and all of that stuff. That’s really great.”

Hartley also called the cabin storyline “interesting.” But ultimately, it seems the siblings will try to be there for one another, no matter how difficult their lives are at that moment in time. “They’re all connected, they’re family,” he said.

Nevertheless, there will be drama that rises between Kevin and Randall. “Some sh*t comes out. There’s a minor blow-up,” Hartley said. “Different ways of handling important situations. The fact that Kevin — should I be saying this? I shouldn’t be saying this — there’s a problem between Kevin and Randall.”

He added: “It has to do with the way people handle certain things, and it becomes a dealbreaker situation. It’s massive. There’s two sides to the story and they both have their points, and I get both sides. But when I step into Kevin’s shoes, obviously, I only get one side of it.”

Although This Is Us fans are sad to see it, the rift between Kevin and Randall was bound to begin at some point. Now, everyone will just have to wait and see what happens next. So grab your tissues. This one’s going to be emotional.

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