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Jada Pinkett Smith and Will Smith seem to have a perfect marriage. Through Pinkett Smith’s Red Table Talk interviews, we have learned how she and Will navigate their lives together. They each speak commonly of building one another up and being happy with themselves in order to be the best partner possible for each other.

But, as with most things, their marriage isn’t perfect. In a clip, obtained by People, of Monday’s upcoming Red Table Talk, Jada opened up about a time where there may have been some issues in her marriage.

Has Will cheated on Jada?

In the world of celebrities, cheating is pretty common place. Stars have the world at their fingertips and big-name actors, like Will, have women throwing themselves at them all of the time. So, has Will ever cheated on his beloved wife?

On this week’s episode of the Facebook show, Jada and her mother, Adrienne Banfield-Norris, spoke to couple’s therapist Esther Perel about infidelity and relationships.

When the topic of infidelity came up, Jada said that she could “relate.”

“I’m asked a lot about, ‘Is there infidelity in your relationship with Will?'” she said. “And it’s like, ‘No, but there’ve been other betrayals of the heart that have been far bigger than I could even think in regards to an infidelity.'”

How did Will and Jada save their marriage?

Both Will and Jada have been open about times in their marriage where things weren’t going smoothly.

On a previous Red Table Talk, Will sat down at the table and spoke about how he and Jada worked on their marriage.

“I was devastated even worse than a divorce,” he said. “We broke up within our marriage and got back together again. We had to rebuild with new rules and something way, completely different.”

For Jada, she had to understand that her happiness couldn’t live within Will.

“Personally, in my journey, what I had to realize was that I had to find all the peace, love and joy within my heart in order to bring it to the table to share,” she said. “Will had to go away and find the peace, love and joy in his heart to share.”

“So that’s what we share instead of our traumas from our childhood, all of our insecurities and fears that we usually come to the table within our relationships to have our partners fix,” she continued.

How does Jada feel about infidelity?

Though Jada said that Will has not cheated on her, she doesn’t necessarily feel that infidelity is the end of a relationship.

“What are the alternatives to divorce?” she asked Perel. “Everybody thinks as soon as you find out there’s been an affair you have to get a divorce.”

Perel replied that infidelity doesn’t have to break up a marriage.

“I’m not of that persuasion because I think there are many relational betrayals,” she answered. “Contempt, neglect, and violence and indifference and nobody tells people, ‘Leave, leave, get the hell out.'”

“And especially on women, it’s the real new pressure. God forbid you still love the person who actually cheated on you. Maybe that person is a lot of things and cheated on you. It’s like the shame of staying, now that you can go you’ve got to get out.”