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In November 2019, Queen Elizabeth II‘s second-oldest son, Prince Andrew, gave a TV interview that was met consequences he couldn’t have imagined. After months of silence following the serious allegations that the Duke of York had sexual relations with one of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged victims when she was a minor, Andrew spoke with BBC journalist Emily Maitlis and disputed the claims.

However, the royal showed no sympathy for Epstein’s victims, came off as unbelievable, and left more questions than answers. The interview was labeled as a complete disaster, the fallout was almost immediate, and there was one person everyone was waiting to hear from and that was Andrew’s ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson.

Sarah Ferguson
Sarah Ferguson | David M. Benett/Dave Benett/Getty Images for IWC

Did Fergie have a part in Andrew’s decision to do the interview?

The Duchess of York didn’t do herself any favors just prior to the prince’s interview when she took to social media and sung his praises.

Fergie described Andrew as a “true and real gentleman” and added that she is “deeply supportive and proud of this giant of a principled man, that dares to put his shoulder to the wind and stands firm with his sense of honour and truth.” 

After the interview aired, Ferguson was attacked for the post and some suspected that she may have even been behind her ex’s decision to do the interview in the first place. However, her advisor, James Henderson, released a statement insisting that was not the case explaining that Fergie was abroad at the time Andrew did the interview.

“The duchess was out of the country last week and the week before in Hong Kong, China, Saudi Arabia, and Venice and was not involved in this program which took place and was finalized last week whilst she was overseas,” Henderson said. 

What the duchess thinks about the controversy surrounding her ex

Sarah Ferguson and Prince Andrew
Sarah Ferguson and Prince Andrew | Indigo/Getty Images

So what does Ferguson think about the controversy surrounding the prince that could go down as one of the biggest scandals ever for the royals?

Fergie opened up to Vogue Arabia about that and her ex-husband’s association with Epstein.

“It’s incredibly difficult,” Ferguson said of the media scrutiny.

She went on to say, “When I talk about Prince Andrew, I talk about family because the last six months have been hard on the girls and me… To see such a wonderful man go through such enormous pain. He is the best man I know. It’s just incredible what he has done for Britain, and it’s all nonsense [her voice raises as she alludes to the Epstein scandal], so I talk about familyhood, and I’m very strong about it.”

The duchess also told the publication that every morning she recites these lines from Rudyard Kipling’s poem: “If you can keep your head when all about you / Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, / If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, / But make allowance for their doubting too; / If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, / Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies, / Or being hated, don’t give way to hating.”

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