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She-Hulk: Attorney at Law is the first Marvel series to break the 4th wall. You saw hints of it in the trailer. But Jennifer Walters (Tatiana Maslany) stopped the show to tell us her backstory in the opening episode. Moving forward, you can expect a little more of Jennifer talking to you personally. 

Maslany, Head Writer Jessica Gao and director Kat Coiro were on a Television Critics Association panel on Aug. 3. The trio addressed the 4th wall breaking on the show moving forward. She-Hulk: Attorney at Law streams new episodes Thursdays on Disney+.

‘She-Hulk: Attorney at Law’ writer wants to break the 4th wall more 

She-Hulk broke the 4th wall in the John Byrne comic books, speaking to the reader. Gao said if it were entirely up to her, Jessica would do it all the time on She-Hulk: Attorney at Law.

“It was very, very tricky finding the balance because if I had my way, she’d be breaking the 4th wall every other sentence,” Gao said. “I’m definitely on the ‘let’s turn it up to 11’ side of things. And everybody else had to kind of pull me back a little bit more from it. But I will say the show is very meta and self-aware in the same way that the Byrne run was very meta and self-aware. And it is present in the show, but it’s not overpowering.”

‘She-Hulk’ may have influenced your favorite 4th wall breakers

Breaking the fourth wall has been good to superheroes like Deadpool and streaming heroes like Fleabag. Coiro points out that Byrne’s Sensational She-Hulk run beginning in 1989 predates them. He came after Ferris Bueller, for the record.

“I always like to say also that She-Hulk was breaking the 4th wall way before Deadpool, way before Fleabag,” Coiro said. “Back in the comics, she was always very meta. And she was always kind of taking control of her story and her narrative. And I think that’s something that Jessica really captured amazingly in the show, the essence of that spirit.”

CGI adds a 5th wall

She-Hulk may be the first CGI character to address the audience. Although Deadpool is probably CGI in some of those scenes. Coiro said in any Hulk or She-Hulk scene, they capture Maslany and Mark Ruffalo’s authentic performance. Maslany reflected on learning mocap from the veteran Ruffalo.

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“There’s something about the tech that Mark and I discuss which is that She-Hulk and Hulk sort of feel like outsiders,” Maslany said. “They do kind of feel like they don’t fit in the world, like we’re sort of in these little gray suits with the camera in front of our faces. And there’s something that actually informs the character through that. We’re not in like super-cool super suits. We don’t feel cool. So there’s something about that that feels Hulky to me.”

If Maslany or Ruffalo want to ad lib, the artists can capture their performance and render it in Hulk form.

“You two inspired additions to the script,” Coiro said. “I remember the first day you guys were together and playing off each other and we were like, ‘Oh, we need to see more of this!’ And it led to building out the montage that’s in the trailer a lot. That was really based on your guys’ chemistry and your energy having fun despite all of these technical things you had to grapple with.”