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A fictional Third Eye Blind gets into an argument with Sebastian Stan’s Tommy Lee in the Hulu series Pam and Tommy. In reality, frontman Stephan Jenkins says the interaction never happened. Find out more about Third Eye Blind’s relationship with Mötley Crüe. 

Third Eye Blind frontman Stephan Jenkins at a Tribeca Festival event in 2021
Stephan Jenkins | Michael Loccisano/Getty Images for Tribeca Festival

‘Pam and Tommy’ features a fictional Third Eye Blind 

A fictional Third Eye Blind appears in episode 5 of the Hulu series “Uncle Jim and Aunt Susie in Duluth.” In the episode, Tommy Lee arrives at the recording studio to find Third Eye Blind in the bigger studio A where Mötley Crüe usually records. An unhappy Lee barges into the studio to confront the band he’s never heard of. 

“Hey, who the f*** are you guys?” he says in the scene, adding: “I’ve got bad news for you, Third Eye Blind. Studio A is Mötley Crüe’s room.”

Tommy Lee (Sebastian Stan) and Nikki Sixx (Iker Amaya) confronting Third Eye Blind in episode 5 of 'Pam and Tommy'
Tommy Lee (Sebastian Stan) and Nikki Sixx (Iker Amaya) | Erin Simkin/Hulu

“Really? That’s funny,” the fictional Jenkins (Jeffrey Conway) replies. “Because we’re booked into it for the next six weeks.” After finding out they share a record label with the up-and-coming band, Lee and Nikki Sixx (Iker Amaya) leave the recording studio annoyed and a bit dejected. 

Mötley Crüe never confronted Third Eye Blind at the recording studio

As Jenkins explained to Variety, he was never in the same studio as the legendary rock band. “Mötley Crüe and I’ve never been in the same studio,” he told the outlet. “I recorded my whole first album in Northern California. So we were across the state from each other at the very least.”

Instead of being rooted in truth, the scene developed Tommy Lee’s growing anxiety about the state of his music career. Why Third Eye Blind? As executive producer Rob Siegel explained, they “felt like the perfect band.” 

He continued, “I did a little quick Google search, ‘What label was Mötley Crüe on?’ Elektra. Who else was on Elektra? Third Eye Blind. The timing was perfect. In 1996 they [were] working on their debut album. So the scene is fictional, but I like to think it absolutely could have happened!”

Stephan Jenkins never listened to Mötley Crüe, but the band still inspired Third Eye Blind 

As Jenkins revealed to Variety, he never listened to or even heard of Mötley Crüe when Third Eye Blind was getting started. “I actually saw Tommy Lee’s penis before I ever heard their band,” he said, referencing the infamous Pamela Anderson/Tommy Lee sex tape. “[The sex tape] was my first introduction to them.”

Ironically, Jenkins says the sex tape inspired his career in music. “I thought, these guys are supposed to be big rock star and movie stars and they’re still on a houseboat?,” he said. “It’s all doable.” 

Jenkins claims he heard Mötley Crüe’s music “years later,” but Third Eye Blind drummer Brad Hargreaves was very familiar with their sound. “My drummer Brad said that what inspired him to play drums when he was a little kid was Mötley Crüe,” said Jenkins. “He loved that metal s***. So there is a part of Third Eye Blind taking some kind of inspiration from Tommy Lee’s drumming.”

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