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Linda Perry said she’d love to see Madonna go in a different direction with her music. Perry said she admires Madonna, but feels disappointed by her recent work. She believes that Madonna is a trend-setter and shouldn’t try to compete with younger artists like Charli XCX.

Perry said she would love to work with Madonna soon because she doesn’t like the way her career is going.

“Of late, I feel she is a follower. She’s following the trends,” Perry told Consequence. “She’s trying to compete with Charli XCX and this and that. Everything about her seems weak to me, and not powerful.”

Perry thinks Madonna would embrace being a music icon instead of attempting to do what younger artists are doing.

“She’s one of the greatest,” she said. “She taught women to be strong and be yourself, and I love how she just constantly was changing her sound. Every record sounded different. I mean, she is an explorer. She is a leader.”

Perry said that if she produced Madonna’s music, she would encourage her to embrace her natural talent.

“When Madonna is ready to retire, she should make that album with me because I’ll make her such a great album,” she said. “I would love to get that woman in a studio, slap her in the face a couple times and say, ‘Wake up. Get back to who Madonna is and what you represent. You are a leader, so we gotta get back there.’ And focus on the power of what her voice can do, not the power of what Auto-Tune and effects can do, and all the electronics that she’s into right now to hide all that.”

Linda Perry shared what she wants to see out of Madonna 

Perry wants to put Madonna “out in the open.” She thinks this would allow the singer to “just show [her flaws] and make this beautiful, more acoustic type of record with strings. Something she could sit down and just sing to a crowd that’s wearing nice clothes at Carnegie Hall or whatever.”

She doesn’t foresee a collaboration between them happening any time soon, though.

“She will not step into a room with me, ’cause that is far from what Madonna wants to do,” she said. “So, Madonna, call me when you’re ready to get back to your strength, all right?”

She is gearing up to release a new album

On July 3, Madonna will release her newest album, Confessions on a Dance Floor: Part II. This will be a dance album.

“We must dance, celebrate, and pray with our bodies,” she said in a statement, per Billboard. “These are things that we’ve been doing for thousands of years — they really are spiritual practices. After all, the dance floor is a ritualistic space. It’s a place where you connect—with your wounds, with your fragility.”

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This is a follow-up to her 2005 album Confessions on a Dance Floor.

“To rave is an art. It’s about pushing your limits and connecting to a community of like-minded people,” she continued. “Sound, light, and vibration Reshape our perceptions Pulling us into a trance-like state. The repetition of the bass, we don’t just hear it but we feel it. Altering our consciousness and dissolving ego and time.”